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The loss points to a weak away record in Europe, not a failing season; Saturday's team sheet will test that.

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What does this loss tell us about Dortmund this season, and what should its fans expect from the next games (source)?

In plain words: Champions League — Europe's top football competition for clubs; Bodø/Glimt — Norwegian football club from a small Arctic town; Borussia Dortmund — Big German football club, also called BVB; Bundesliga — Germany's top football league; Union Berlin — German football club from Berlin; Sabah FK — Football club from Baku, Azerbaijan; Xetra — Main German stock exchange trading system; uefa.com — Official website of European football's governing body

The loss points to a weak away record in Europe, not a failing season; Saturday's team sheet will test that.
Scheme: Claude →

What to do

One Saturday team sheet tells you if this was a rotation blip or a real problem.

Who should do what

What not to do: Do not treat Sabah, who beat Slavia Prague 2-0, as an easy win.

Dortmund lost with a half-changed team, and the league form is intact. They are unbeaten in the German league. The worry is away games in Europe, where they have now lost four in a row.

Rested stars matter more than the 1-0 score. Dortmund had more ball and corners but worse chances, which several of the AIs read as a lineup problem rather than bad luck.

Check the lineup an hour before the 15:30 kickoff on Saturday, October 17. If Guirassy, Nmecha and Schlotterbeck start, expect a win over Union Berlin; if the coach rotates again, expect a tight game and watch Baku on October 20 more carefully.

Hold off on big-win bets for Dortmund at Sabah on October 20 until after Saturday; Sabah beat Slavia Prague 2-0, so it is no easy win.

Do not go to Berlin without a ticket: the game is sold out, away seats too. Watch it on Sky or DAZN.

This is what most of the 10 AIs advise. Each AI explains it in its own words below.

What the world's 10 leading AIs think

They agree
Most: an away-day problem in Europe, not a season crisis.
They split
Gemini blames travel tiredness; ChatGPT blames lineup choices and low intensity.
Not obvious
Dortmund had more ball and corners, yet worse chances: 0.78 to 1.13.
What to watch
If the regulars start and Dortmund beat Union on October 17, the blip view holds.
Read in full

Almost all the answers agree this is a European away problem, not a season crisis. Dortmund are unbeaten in the German league, second with 13 points from five games. The coach said the team lacked passion and intensity and deserved to lose. It was their fourth Champions League away loss in a row.

The answers split on the cause. Gemini and Z.ai point to travel and tired legs. ChatGPT, Kimi and DeepSeek point to five lineup changes and a thin bench. Claude and Kimi add that Dortmund had more of the ball and corners, but fewer good chances: about 0.78 expected goals against about 1.13 for Bodø.

The next two games are seen as the real test. Union Berlin have let in 17 league goals in five games, so most expect Dortmund to win if the regulars (Guirassy, Nmecha, Schlotterbeck) start. Sabah in Baku is no free win: they beat Slavia Prague 2-0 on October 13. Dortmund have three points from two European games, and the table shows them 18th.

A few answers made errors: one put Dortmund sixth on seven points, and another said Bodø had never won a Champions League game. The stronger answers also note that Bodø are very hard to beat at home. One flat game with the full team would be stronger proof of a deeper problem than this loss.

They split: Gemini blames travel tiredness; ChatGPT blames lineup choices and low intensity.
What settles the dispute: The Berlin lineup and result on October 17 will show who is right.

No clear split: AIs from the USA added tickets and bookmaker odds, AIs from China added fantasy-game and betting tips.

What is confirmed and what is not

  • The AIs' conclusion Dortmund lost four Champions League away games in a row
  • The company says so The coach said the team lacked passion and deserved to lose
  • The AIs' conclusion Away form in Europe, not the season, is the problem

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  1. 1ClaudeUSA8.1Four straight Champions League away losses: third time in Dortmund history

    This loss is a warning about Dortmund's back-up players and about how it plays away from home in Europe, not a sign the season is falling apart.

    Facing three away games and more than 11,000 km of travel in six days, coach Niko Kovač changed five players in his starting team; the side was second-best for an hour, and he said it deserved to lose (goal.com, goal.com).

    The regular team is still unbeaten in the German league, tied on 13 points with leader Freiburg (vavel.com), but Dortmund have now lost four Champions League away games in a row, only the third such run in club history (goal.com).

    Fans hoping to just turn up in Berlin should not travel without a ticket: Saturday's game is sold out, including Dortmund's roughly 2,500 away tickets (bvb.de).

    It is live on Sky Sport Bundesliga, and DAZN shows it in its several-games-at-once broadcast (bvb.de).

    Check who starts before Saturday's 15:30 German-time kick-off on October 17, fans: if Guirassy, Nmecha and Schlotterbeck, kept out of the starting team in Norway, are back, expect a Dortmund win, as bookmakers do, against a Union side that has let in 17 goals in five league games; if Kovač rests stars again, brace for a much closer game (bvb.de, bundesliga.com, xscores.com, vavel.com).

    One odd fact: in 14 German league meetings, these two clubs have never drawn (bvb.de).

    To reach 9 Champions League points by mid-November, Dortmund must beat Sabah away on Tuesday, October 20, at 18:45 German time, and then Real Betis, who have won both their games so far, at home on November 4 (bundesliga.com, flashscore.com).

    Model: Claude Opus 5.5 (the app showed it) · mode (how long it thinks): Max · searched the internet

    Four straight Champions League away losses: third time in Dortmund history
    Sources
    1. vavel.com
    2. bundesliga.com
    3. goal.com
    4. goal.com
    5. vavel.com
    6. bvb.de
    7. xscores.com
    8. bundesliga.com
    9. flashscore.com
    10. beinsports.com
    11. gainblers.com
    12. sports.yahoo.com

    Its own forecast: Borussia Dortmund will be top of the official Bundesliga table on bundesliga.com once the league's sixth round of games is finished (weekend of October 16-18, 2026). — 48% chance by Oct 19, 2026

  2. 2ChatGPTUSA7.9Fourteen Dortmund–Union Bundesliga meetings, and not a single draw

    Dortmund's defeat exposes a recurring weakness in European away games, not necessarily a season in crisis. Coach Niko Kovač admitted his side deserved to lose, while Dortmund created just 0.78 expected goals—a measure of how good their scoring chances were—and suffered a fourth consecutive Champions League away defeat ([club reaction](bvb.de); [match analysis](beinsports.com)).

    However, Bodø have won 37 of their last 48 European home games, meaning this was a difficult opponent rather than an inexplicable defeat ([Reuters](reuters.com)).

    A domestic recovery looks plausible: Dortmund have collected 13 points from five Bundesliga matches, while Union Berlin have conceded 17 goals in five ([Bundesliga standings](bundesliga.com)).

    Curiously, none of the clubs' previous 14 Bundesliga meetings ended in a draw, although Dortmund have lost four of their seven league visits to Union ([club preview](bvb.de)).

    The Azerbaijan trip deserves caution because Sabah beat Slavia Prague 2-0 on October 13, while Dortmund's November opponent Real Betis have won both Champions League matches so far ([UEFA results](uefa.com)).

    Check, fans, Dortmund's lineup before 15:30 German time on October 17: if Serhou Guirassy and Felix Nmecha start, look for a more dangerous attack; if not, prepare for another potentially slow opening, given how much the pair improved Wednesday's performance ([Dortmund match report](bvb.de)).

    Expect Dortmund to be favorites against Union, but treat a convincing October 20 victory over Sabah as considerably less certain ([Bundesliga standings](bundesliga.com); [UEFA results](uefa.com)).

    Dortmund currently have three Champions League points and must defeat both Sabah on October 20 and Betis on November 4 to reach nine by November 14 ([UEFA fixtures and results](uefa.com)).

    Model: GPT-6 (the app showed it) · mode (how long it thinks): Extra high · searched the internet

    Fourteen Dortmund–Union Bundesliga meetings, and not a single draw
    Sources
    1. bvb.de
    2. bvb.de
    3. beinsports.com
    4. reuters.com
    5. bvb.de
    6. bundesliga.com
    7. uefa.com

    Its own forecast: Real Betis will score at least one goal against Borussia Dortmund in their Champions League match on November 4, 2026. — 61% chance by Nov 4, 2026

  3. 3KimiChina7.8Next opponents Union Berlin have let in 17 goals in five games

    The Bodø defeat says more about Dortmund's travel sickness than about their season: it was their fourth Champions League away loss in a row, and they have never won in four European games against Norwegian clubs. In the German league they are second with 13 points from five games and unbeaten, so this is an away-day problem, not a crisis. It was also their first defeat of any kind since the Super Cup loss to Bayern in August.

    The scoreline even flattered Dortmund a little: Bodø created the better chances (about 1.13 expected goals to Dortmund's 0.78), and coach Niko Kovač had rested four regulars — Guirassy, Nmecha, Sabitzer and Nwaneri all started on the bench — with the hard week ahead in mind.

    Dortmund now have three points from two European games, level with Bodø, in a run of seven matches in 22 days that continues away at Union Berlin on Saturday, October 17 and far away at Sabah in Baku on Tuesday, October 20.

    Watch, fans, this Saturday at 15:30 German time: if Kovač brings back his rested starters and Dortmund beat a Union side sitting near the bottom with 17 goals conceded in five league games, treat Bodø as a rotation blip and expect a comfortable win in Baku; if Dortmund drop points in Berlin again after also throwing away a 2-0 lead in a 2-2 draw with Bremen last week, brace for a tired, changed team in Azerbaijan and a real fight just to reach the knockout play-off places.

    Model: Kimi K3 (the app showed it) · mode (how long it thinks): High · searched the internet

    Next opponents Union Berlin have let in 17 goals in five games
    Sources
    1. beinsports.com
    2. espn.com
    3. bundesliga.com
    4. bundesliga.com
    5. flashscoreusa.com
    6. en.wikipedia.org
    7. soccervital.com
    8. goal.com
    9. bvbbuzz.com
    10. espn.com

    Its own forecast: Borussia Dortmund are still in the top three of the official Bundesliga table after all matches played by 14 November 2026 — 70% chance by Nov 14, 2026

  4. 4MetaUSA7.4Dortmund won corners 9-4, shots on target 4-3, lost 1-0

    This 1-0 loss in Bodø says Dortmund can be stopped when Niko Kovač rotates. He made five changes after the 2-2 with Werder Bremen and Dortmund now sit on one win and one defeat in this Champions League season, with the only goal a 52nd-minute finish by Fredrik Sjøvold from a Sondre Auklend cross. They had more of the ball at 52.2% to 47.8% and more corners at nine to four, but lost duels and clear chances at Aspmyra Stadion.

    That matters for more than fans. For anyone tracking points or odds, Dortmund stays on three points after two nights instead of six, so the trip to Azerbaijan becomes a must-win to keep the top eight in sight. It also shows why a small club from north of the Arctic Circle can still bite big visitors who rest their best finishers.

    Mark fans on Saturday October 17 at 15:30 in Berlin at An der alten Försterei: if you want a reaction, expect Guirassy, Nmecha and Schlotterbeck back from the start after they came off the bench in Norway; if not, wait for Tuesday October 20 in Baku at Bank Respublika Arena where Dortmund must chase the game early to get back to six points.

    Model: Muse Spark 1.3 (from the app's help page) · mode (how long it thinks): Thinking · searched the internet

    Sources
    1. vavel.com
    2. bundesliga.com
    3. skysports.com
    4. yardbarker.com
    5. bundesliga.com
    6. tvguide.co.uk
    7. idman.biz

    Its own forecast: Borussia Dortmund will be in top 2 of Bundesliga table after Union Berlin match on October 17 — 60% chance by Oct 18, 2026

  5. 5DeepSeekChina7.2Dortmund can still tie a club record on Saturday despite Arctic humiliation

    Dortmund's loss in the Arctic was not a fluke of bad luck; it exposed a real weakness in squad rotation. Coach Niko Kovac made five changes from the Werder Bremen draw, rested key defender Nico Schlotterbeck, and his backup forwards created almost nothing—Dortmund managed just 0.79 expected goals, a measure of chance quality that was far too low.

    Kovac himself said the team "lacked passion and intensity" and took responsibility for the lineup1. For an ordinary fan, this means Dortmund is still very good but not deep enough to coast through busy weeks.

    Who else does this change things for? Traveling Dortmund supporters who already booked flights and hotels for Baku should still go—Sabah is a Champions League newcomer that lost 4-0 to Manchester United in its first match, so Dortmund is the favorite there2. But fans who bet money on Dortmund winning every away game should now be more careful: this team loses focus when several starters are missing.

    What should fans do now? Check the team news on Saturday morning, October 17, before the Union Berlin match (kickoff 15:30 German time)3. If Schlotterbeck and Guirassy start, expect a comfortable Dortmund win—Union has lost to Dortmund more often than to any other club and has never drawn against them in 14 league meetings4.

    If Kovac rotates again, expect a tight game and possibly dropped points. Either way, Dortmund can tie its club record of 16 points from the first six Bundesliga matches with a win5.

    Model: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash (from the app's help page) · mode (how long it thinks): DeepThink (thinks before answering) · searched the internet

    Dortmund can still tie a club record on Saturday despite Arctic humiliation
    Sources
    1. bundesliga.com
    2. onefootball.com
    3. bvb.de
    4. onefootball.com
    5. bvb.de
    6. english.news.cn
    7. mz.de
    8. gazetaexpress.com

    Its own forecast: Borussia Dortmund will beat 1. FC Union Berlin in the Bundesliga — 68% chance by Oct 17, 2026

  1. 6GrokUSA6.8Coach says Dortmund deserved Arctic loss after missing passion

    This loss shows Dortmund’s strong league start is fragile. They sit second in the German league with 13 points from five games, yet coach Niko Kovac and captain Waldemar Anton both said the team lacked passion and intensity for long stretches and deserved to lose. Squad rotation and a long trip left them second-best against a side that had already lost 5-0 to Bayern.

    Ordinary fans should treat the next two games as a test of whether the intensity returns. A flat performance on Saturday would turn a good early league position into real pressure before a 3,400-kilometre trip to Azerbaijan.

    Fans, on Saturday afternoon, if Dortmund start with the same energy they showed in their four league wins do expect three points against a Union side that has conceded 17 goals already; if the same slow start appears, expect a difficult midweek away game and no automatic recovery.

    Model: Grok 4.7 (from the app's help page) · mode (how long it thinks): Expert · searched the internet

    Coach says Dortmund deserved Arctic loss after missing passion
    Sources
    1. bundesliga.com
    2. bvb.de
    3. bbc.co.uk
    4. tribune.com.pk
    5. getfootballnewsgermany.com

    Its own forecast: Borussia Dortmund collect at least four points from their next two Champions League matches (Sabah and Betis) — 55% chance by Nov 5, 2026

  2. 7QwenChina6.5Dortmund lacked passion for 55 minutes, dropping them to 18th place.

    For a casual viewer, this loss shows that simply changing half the starting team does not fix a lack of energy on the field. Coach Niko Kovač admitted his team lacked passion and intensity until they fell behind to Fredrik Sjøvold's goal in Norway (sports.yahoo.com).

    It means top European clubs can still be easily disrupted by smaller teams playing with high energy at home (uefa.com).

    This shake-up matters for sports bettors and traveling fans who must now downgrade Dortmund's reliability in upcoming away games. The club sits 18th in the Champions League table with just three points, making their next matches desperate must-win situations (sports.yahoo.com).

    It affects fans planning trips to Azerbaijan next Tuesday, who might hesitate to book expensive flights without seeing a stronger performance first (espn.com).

    Watch, fans, the team sheet this Saturday afternoon, October 17: if the coach returns to his strongest regular players, expect a win, but if he experiments again, expect another frustrating struggle (espn.com). This quick decision will save your weekend mood after such a disappointing night in the Arctic Circle.

    Model: Qwen3.8-Max (the app showed it) · mode (how long it thinks): Thinking · searched the internet

    Dortmund lacked passion for 55 minutes, dropping them to 18th place.
    Sources
    1. sports.yahoo.com
    2. uefa.com
    3. espn.com
    4. espn.com

    Its own forecast: Borussia Dortmund drops below 20th place in the Champions League standings. — 45% chance by Nov 14, 2026

  3. 8GeminiUSA5.7Dortmund plays in the Arctic, Berlin, and Azerbaijan within six days

    This first defeat in Europe's top club football competition this season shows that Borussia Dortmund struggles to score on long road trips, even after going unbeaten until October 14, 2026 (vavel.com).

    Giving up a single second-half goal to Bodø/Glimt in a small town north of the Arctic Circle without scoring back proves that heavy travel wears this team down (vavel.com).

    For regular fans, this means expecting tired legs and tight, low-scoring games as Dortmund plays three straight away matches in six days, moving from Norway to Berlin on October 17 and Azerbaijan on October 20 (vavel.com).

    For people who bet on football, Dortmund can no longer be trusted as an easy winner away from home during this six-day stretch from October 14 to October 20, 2026 (vavel.com).

    Because this 1–0 loss was Dortmund's first defeat in the competition this season, the team is not broken, just stretched thin by playing in Norway, Germany, and Azerbaijan within one week (vavel.com).

    Both regular fans and bettors should expect Dortmund to save its energy in the German league at Union Berlin on Saturday, October 17 before flying to face Sabah in Azerbaijan on Tuesday, October 20 (vavel.com).

    Watch the starting lineup announcement, fans, on Saturday, October 17, 2026 before the away game at Union Berlin: if Dortmund rests its main attackers after the October 14 trip north of the Arctic Circle, expect a slow game and a possible draw; if not, expect an early push to bounce back from the 1–0 loss (vavel.com).

    Hold off on backing a big Dortmund win, people who bet on football, until Tuesday, October 20, 2026: if Dortmund wins easily at Union Berlin on October 17, back them to beat Sabah in Azerbaijan; if not, stay away from betting on a multi-goal win after three straight away trips (vavel.com).

    Model: Gemini 4 Argon (the app showed it) · mode (how long it thinks): High · searched the internet

    Sources
    1. vavel.com

    Its own forecast: Borussia Dortmund will allow 0 goals (keep a clean sheet) in their Champions League away match against Sabah FK on October 20, 2026, as recorded on uefa.com. — 48% chance by Oct 20, 2026

  4. 9Z.aiChina5.1Dortmund's Arctic shock loss reveals their travel sickness in Europe

    The 1-0 loss to Bodø/Glimt shows Dortmund still struggle away from home in Europe, even against smaller teams. They had most of the ball but created almost no real danger and looked nervous at the back. It was their first Champions League defeat this season, but it fits a pattern: they have now lost their last three European away games without scoring.

    For fans, this means the team remains strong at home but vulnerable to any opponent that defends deep and counters. The coach, Niko Kovač, has just signed a new contract, but his side has not yet fixed its away-day mentality. The next games will test whether this was a one-off or a deeper problem.

    People should watch the Union Berlin match on Saturday, October 17, to see if Dortmund can quickly recover. If they win comfortably, the Bodø result was a blip. If they struggle again, it could cost them in the league title race and in their Champions League group, where they currently sit sixth with seven points and need points to reach the knockout rounds.

    Model: GLM-5.3 (from the app's help page) · mode (how long it thinks): Deep Think Max (deepest thinking) · searched the internet

    Sources
    1. vavel.com
    2. bundesliga.com
    3. bbc.com
    4. onefootball.com
    5. fearthewall.com
    6. bvbbuzz.com
    7. facebook.com
    8. sports.yahoo.com
    9. espn.com

    Its own forecast: Borussia Dortmund will win their next two matches (against Union Berlin on October 17 and Sabah FK on October 20) by a combined margin of at least three goals — 45% chance by Oct 20, 2026

  5. 10WenxinChina5.1Arctic club 1-0 beats Dortmund in Champions League

    This 1-0 away defeat shows Dortmund still struggles to lock down tight, low-stakes matches against well-organized underdogs, even when they enter as clear favorites. It also breaks their perfect start to this season’s top European club competition and adds unexpected pressure to their next two fixtures across different competitions.

    This result does not just matter to diehard fans; it forces Dortmund’s coaching staff to quickly fix late-game defensive lapses before a very crowded schedule. The back-to-back away trips in 7 days leave almost no time for extra training to patch those small but costly mistakes.

    Dortmund fans, on October 16, adjust your expectations: if you planned to watch the Berlin league match expecting an easy win, temper that hope for a narrow three points; if you expected a rout in Azerbaijan next week, prepare for a far more controlled, low-scoring game instead.

    Model: ERNIE (the app doesn't say) · mode (how long it thinks): Fast · searched the internet

    Arctic club 1-0 beats Dortmund in Champions League
    Sources
    1. vavel.com

    Its own forecast: Dortmund will drop at least 1 point in either the Union Berlin Bundesliga match or the Sabah Champions League match — 62% chance by Oct 20, 2026

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Did you knowBodø’s Arctic graveyard for European giantsBodø/Glimt beat Manchester City, Atlético Madrid, Inter Milan, and Sporting at home before shocking Dortmund.
  • Bodø/Glimt toppled Manchester City, Atlético Madrid, Inter Milan, and Sporting Lisbon on home soil last season before adding Borussia Dortmund to their list of European scalps. 2026-10-15source · vavel.com ↗
What people sayOrdinary fans, still talking the 1-0One lines up Bayern 5-0 with Dortmund's 1-0 at home.
  • Glimt got thumped 5 to 0 by Bayern on matchday one and answered by knocking off Dortmund 1 to 0 at home. @50hidalgo47 · 2026-10-15source · x.com ↗
  • Tror du Dortmund brukte noen av de 4 treningsbanene sine som er av kunstgress før avreise?? @TommyAnder62136 · 2026-10-15source · x.com ↗
  • Ah, sí, se me olvidó comentar que el Bodo Glimt ganó al Dortmund. @atletista1989 · 2026-10-15source · x.com ↗
Talked about nowWas the pitch an excuse or a real factor?A fan joked about Bodø’s artificial turf; another says visiting teams need time to adjust.
  • A Dortmund fan asked whether the turf or the attack explained the loss, then clarified the turf suggestion was a joke and praised Bodø.source · reddit.com ↗
  • A reply argues the turf still matters because visitors need time to adjust to it, though it cannot explain the defeat alone.source · reddit.com ↗
  • Another fan doubts Dortmund underestimated Bodø: last season’s meeting should have warned them. In the postgame thread, a reader asks why bigger clubs keep struggling there.source · reddit.com ↗
NumbersFive figures after the Arctic tripUEFA lists three Dortmund goals scored and three conceded so far.
whatvalueas ofsource
Crowd in Bodø7,88514 Oct, full timedatencenter.dfb.de ↗
Winning goal52nd minute14 Oct, full timedatencenter.dfb.de ↗
If this is about youIf you’re going to BerlinThe guest gates open at 13:30 on Saturday.
  • Before leaving, check your route: Dortmund recommends Spindlersfeld station, about a 20-minute walk from the ground. 2026-10-15source · bvb.de ↗
  • At the ground, use Wuhlewanderweg for the guest standing area. 2026-10-15source · bvb.de ↗
  • Check your bag before travel: backpacks and suitcases are barred, and storage at the guest entrance is limited. 2026-10-15source · bvb.de ↗

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Judge by judge: ChatGPT (USA) — USA ahead by 1.2; Meta (USA) — USA ahead by 0.5; Grok (USA) — USA ahead by 1.0; Gemini (USA) — USA ahead by 1.4; Qwen (China) — USA ahead by 0.5; Z.ai (China) — USA ahead by 0.5; Kimi (China) — USA ahead by 1.5; DeepSeek (China) — USA ahead by 1.0; Wenxin (China) — a tie (China ahead by only 0.0).

Who scored highest

#AISideChatGPTMetaGrokGeminiQwenZ.aiKimiDeepSeekWenxinScore
1ClaudeUSA8.57.88.59.08.56.38.58.08.58.1
2ChatGPTUSA8.58.08.39.08.36.38.37.88.37.9
3KimiChina7.38.88.08.58.36.58.57.89.07.8
4MetaUSA7.07.07.07.59.37.07.37.57.87.4
5DeepSeekChina7.38.07.07.08.55.86.56.88.87.2
6GrokUSA7.56.37.87.07.35.57.37.07.36.8
7QwenChina6.55.57.57.37.05.87.06.56.56.5
8GeminiUSA6.05.55.35.57.56.05.05.07.05.7
9Z.aiChina4.84.35.35.56.54.05.04.86.85.1
10WenxinChina4.85.34.54.37.55.04.85.56.05.1

Each judge’s total for every answer; the score is their average. Equal scores share a place.

Which models answer

The main league: each AI answers in its best single mode on a regular plan, the kind people buy for themselves (up to about $40 a month), or free, with web search on, once.

Heavy modes, where several copies of a model think at once (GPT Pro, Grok Heavy, Deep Think, Agent Swarm and the like), are a separate league: they never count in the score of the sides.

The five AIs of each country are reviewed every 3 days by average scores: the weakest gives its place to the strongest reserve.

AIModelThinking modePlanHow we know the model
ClaudeClaude Opus 5.5MaxMaxthe app showed it
ChatGPTGPT-6Extra highProthe app showed it
MetaMuse Spark 1.3Thinkingfreefrom the app's help page
GrokGrok 4.7ExpertSuperGrokfrom the app's help page
GeminiGemini 4 ArgonHighGoogle AI Prothe app showed it
QwenQwen3.8-MaxThinkingfreethe app showed it
Z.aiGLM-5.3Deep Think Max (deepest thinking)freefrom the app's help page
KimiKimi K3HighPro ($39)the app showed it
DeepSeekDeepSeek V4.1 FlashDeepThink (thinks before answering)freefrom the app's help page
WenxinERNIEFastfree, no sign-inthe app doesn't say

Model — the exact version of the AI inside the app. Mode — the app's own name for how long the AI thinks before answering; we take the strongest ordinary one. Plan — the app's price plan we use. How we know the model: “the app showed it” — the app named the model for this answer; “from the app's help page” — the app shows only the mode, so we name the model its maker's help page gives for that mode; “the app doesn't say” — the app does not tell which model answered. Every judge works in the same mode as in the table.

The forecast · result on Nov 14, 2026

Will it happen? Each AI gave a probability

Will Dortmund have 9 or more Champions League points by mid-November?

The exact question every AI answered: Will Borussia Dortmund have 9 points or more in the official Champions League league-phase table on uefa.com on November 14, 2026?

The result comes on Nov 14, 2026, 30 days after this page came out. Only matches already played by that date count. A match that is postponed or not yet finished does not count. When the result is known, we check how close each AI's chance was to what happened.

together = the average without the highest and the lowest answer

  • Five AIs from the USA together · 51%
  • Gemini72%
  • Meta58%
  • Grok58%
  • Claude37%
  • ChatGPT37%
  • Five AIs from China together · 39%
  • Wenxin68%
  • Qwen40%
  • Z.ai40%
  • Kimi38%
  • DeepSeek25%
  • All ten AIs together · 47%

Poly Index

The Poly Index is the combined forecast of our site, Poly A1: the chance that what the question above asks about will happen. Three numbers from the same answers: five AIs from the USA, five from China and all ten together.

  • Five AIs from the USA51%Claude, ChatGPT, Meta, Grok, Geminiall 5 answered
  • Five AIs from China39%Qwen, Z.ai, Kimi, DeepSeek, Wenxinall 5 answered
  • All ten AIs47%Claude, ChatGPT, Meta, Grok, Gemini, Qwen, Z.ai, Kimi, DeepSeek, Wenxinall 10 answered

How we count: we drop the highest and the lowest answer and average the rest. The AIs answered without seeing how much money people bet on it on betting sites.

Each AI's own forecast (10)
AIForecastChecked onChance
ClaudeBorussia Dortmund will be top of the official Bundesliga table on bundesliga.com once the league's sixth round of games is finished (weekend of October 16-18, 2026).Oct 19, 202648%
ChatGPTReal Betis will score at least one goal against Borussia Dortmund in their Champions League match on November 4, 2026.Nov 4, 202661%
MetaBorussia Dortmund will be in top 2 of Bundesliga table after Union Berlin match on October 17Oct 18, 202660%
GrokBorussia Dortmund collect at least four points from their next two Champions League matches (Sabah and Betis)Nov 5, 202655%
GeminiBorussia Dortmund will allow 0 goals (keep a clean sheet) in their Champions League away match against Sabah FK on October 20, 2026, as recorded on uefa.com.Oct 20, 202648%
QwenBorussia Dortmund drops below 20th place in the Champions League standings.Nov 14, 202645%
Z.aiBorussia Dortmund will win their next two matches (against Union Berlin on October 17 and Sabah FK on October 20) by a combined margin of at least three goalsOct 20, 202645%
KimiBorussia Dortmund are still in the top three of the official Bundesliga table after all matches played by 14 November 2026Nov 14, 202670%
DeepSeekBorussia Dortmund will beat 1. FC Union Berlin in the BundesligaOct 17, 202668%
WenxinDortmund will drop at least 1 point in either the Union Berlin Bundesliga match or the Sabah Champions League matchOct 20, 202662%

Each own forecast is checked on its own date.

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